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How to Get Help Doing Your Deal (without getting a โ€œmentorโ€)

Community of Real Estate Entrepreneurs

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When you’re doing your first few deals—or doing your first few deals in a strategy that you haven’t explored before—you need help.

Maybe it’s help evaluating the deal. Maybe it’s help with negotiation or contracts. Maybe it’s help understanding how to ‘price’ the rent or sale price. Maybe it’s help understanding how the financing will work. But you’ll find yourself needing advice from people who’ve ‘been there, done that, got the T-shirt’ over and over again throughout your real estate career.

This is no small matter; it’s easy to lose a deal (or worse yet, do a bad one!) because there’s ONE hangup. ONE question that needs to be answered or ONE problem that needs to be overcome

1:  EVERY Friday morning at our online Haves and Wants meeting. It’s very common for members to attend with the “Want” of “I need someone to walk me through how to do this subject to deal I found” or “Can someone help me with evaluating a property I’m trying to buy?” and to get assistance either then and there,
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The BRRRR Method Explained: Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat

Property Investor's Network (Toledo, OH)

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If you’ve been around the real estate investing world for more than five minutes, chances are you’ve heard someone mention the “BRRRR Method.” No, it’s not about being cold — it’s actually one of the most popular ways investors grow their rental portfolios without constantly needing more cash.

BRRRR stands for Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat, and it’s a smart strategy for building long-term wealth. Let’s break it down step by step in plain English.


๐Ÿก Step 1: Buy

The first move is finding the right property — usually something that’s a bit rough around the edges. Maybe it needs some cosmetic work, or maybe it's been neglected for a while. Either way, you want to buy it below market value so you’ve got some room to add value.

Quick tip:
The numbers need to work. A good rule of thumb is the 70% Rule — buy for no more than 70% of the after-repair value (minus repairs). If the ARV is $200K and you need $30K in rehab, try to get it for around $110K or less.


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Real Estate Isnโ€™t Rocket Scienceโ€”Just Renovation and Resolve

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 I attended last week’s meeting and noticed that many members described themselves as beginners who are trying hard but haven’t found success yet. The two most common challenges they mentioned were a lack of knowledge and a lack of money.

If this business were truly that complicated, I would never have achieved any success myself. When I got started, there was no internet and no personal computers—just a few books at the library by authors like William Nickerson, Robert Allen, and Albert Lowry. Interestingly, the advice in those books is still relevant today and echoes strategies found in real estate books from as far back as 1925: buy a house or small apartment building, renovate it, and rent it out. While the tools and methods for finding deals have changed, the basic concept remains the same.

The most important factor in achieving success in any field is a strong desire to succeed. But you should also ask yourself: Am I doing this just to make money, or do I actually enjoy the business? Many people who fail in real estate get involved because they fall for get-rich-quick pitches online. If you don’t enjoy the work, it’s unlikely to be worth your time or money.

Now, regarding money—there are plenty of people with wealth who are looking for a safe return on their investment. Have you considered simply asking?

If you're just getting started, I encourage you to reach out about the problems you're facing. Let’s work together to find solutions.


"Wholesalingโ€ Creative Deals

Real Estate Investors Association of Greater Cincinnati

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Lordy, people, there are SO many ways to put together real estate deals. SURELY there’s one out there that you’ll like/understand/benefit from.

If you don’t like full-on wholesaling—maybe because ugly houses repel you, or some of the areas that work well aren’t neighborhoods in which you want to spend time, or you don’t like making super-low offers—then learn how to do creative deals, and flip those.

Creative financing techniques—buying properties using seller-held mortgages, contracts for deed, lease/options, and subject to the existing loan—are usually thought of as ways for you, the buyer, to control real estate for some period of time so that you can exercise some exit strategy that requires control.

For instance, you might buy a property subject to the existing loan so that you can renovate it and rent it for the long term. Or you might get a “split funds” seller mortgage for a year because you intend to renovate and resell the property within that year. Or you might control the property with a lease with the option to buy so that you can sell it with a lease with the option to buy (with, o
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National REI Summit 2025

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 ๐Ÿข National REI Summit 2025: The Ultimate Gathering for Real Estate Investors

Mark your calendars—October 30 to November 2, 2025—because Cincinnati, OH is hosting the nation’s longest-running real estate investor conference: the National REI Summit 2025. With over 40 years of empowering independent investors, this summit is more than an event—it’s a movement.

๐Ÿ’ผ Why You Should Attend

Whether you're a seasoned investor or just starting your journey, the National REI Summit offers a powerhouse lineup designed to elevate your game:

  • ๐ŸŽค Top-Tier Speakers
    Hear from industry leaders who share real-world strategies that work in today’s market.

  • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Hands-On Workshops
    Roll up your sleeves and dive into sessions that help you level up your deals—from rehab estimating to creative financing.

  • ๐Ÿค Unmatched Networking
    Connect with serious investors from across the country. Build relationships, find partners, and grow your network.

  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ Actionable Insights
    Leave with tools, tactics, and confidence to navigate the current real estate landscape.

๐ŸŽŸ๏ธ Early Bird Tickets Available

Spots are limited, and early bird pricing won’t last long. If you’re serious about investing, this is your
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GDREIAโ€™s 46th Annual Picnic

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๐ŸŽ‰ GDREIA’s 46th Annual Picnic: A Celebration of Community and Real Estate Success

The Greater Dayton Real Estate Investors Association (GDREIA) recently marked a major milestone—its 46th Annual Picnic! Held in a welcoming outdoor setting, this beloved tradition brought together over 70 members, guests, and local officials to celebrate nearly five decades of empowering independent real estate investors.

๐Ÿก A Gathering of Leaders and Learners

This year’s picnic wasn’t just about good food and sunshine—it was a vibrant showcase of community engagement. Attendees included prominent local officials such as:

  • Willis Blackshear
  • Andrea White
  • Judy Dodge
  • Phil Plummer
  • Carolyn Rice
  • Rodney Creech

Their presence underscored GDREIA’s growing influence and the importance of real estate investment in shaping Dayton’s future.


๐Ÿฝ๏ธ Food, Fun, and Fellowship

From sizzling grills to heartfelt conversations, the picnic offered a chance for members to unwind, connect, and reflect on their shared journey. Families and friends mingled freely, enjoying:

  • Delicious food and refreshments
  • Engaging group activities
  • A relaxed
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Estimating & Rehab Bus Tour

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๐ŸšŒ Estimating & Rehab Bus Tour: A Hands-On Journey Through Dayton Real Estate

On June 20th and 21st, 2025, a vibrant green-and-red bus rolled through the streets of Dayton, Ohio—not as a sightseeing tour, but as a mobile classroom for aspiring and seasoned real estate investors. The “Estimating & Rehab Bus Tour” brought together a dynamic group of attendees for an immersive, hands-on experience in property evaluation and offer-making.
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๐Ÿ” What Made This Tour Unique?

Unlike traditional seminars confined to hotel conference rooms, this tour took learning to the streets. Participants visited five real properties across Dayton, each offering a unique set of challenges and opportunities. With boots on the ground, they practiced:

  • Estimating rehab costs with real-world examples
  • Evaluating property potential based on location, condition, and market trends
  • Making offers—with at least one offer submitted during the tour!

๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Learning by Doing

The heart of the event was its workshop-style approach. Attendees didn’t just listen—they measured, calculated, and strategized. Guided by experienced investors and rehab specialists, they learned h
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Real Estate Investing 101

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๐Ÿก Real Estate Investing 101: From Curiosity to Confidence — A Must-Attend Workshop for Aspiring Investors

If you've ever wondered how to get started in real estate investing but felt overwhelmed by the jargon, the risks, or simply didn’t know where to begin, GDREIA has the perfect opportunity for you. Mark your calendar for Tuesday, August 12, 2025, because Real Estate Investing 101: From Curiosity to Confidence is here to demystify the process and empower you with the tools to take action.

๐Ÿ“… Workshop Details

  • Date & Time: Tuesday, August 12, 2025 | 6 PM – 9 PM
  • Location: Live Zoom Session
  • Cost: FREE for all GDREIA members
  • Audience: Beginners and returning investors looking to refresh their knowledge

๐Ÿ“˜ What You’ll Learn: The Business of Real Estate

This 3-hour session is packed with foundational knowledge and practical insights. Here’s a sneak peek at the curriculum:

๐Ÿ”น Laying the Foundation

  • How to start your real estate business
  • Building your investment strategy

๐Ÿ”น Property Fundamentals


Got burning real estate questions?

Real Estate Investors Association of Greater Cincinnati

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On our July 9th episode of Real Life Real Estate Investing, we opened the lines for one of our favorite formats—Q&A Day. Vena tackled your real-world questions about buying, selling, renting, financing, managing, and more. If you missed it live, don’t worry—the answers are just a click away. Listen to the recording here 

And don’t forget to tune in every Wednesday at 5 PM Eastern—https://streamdb3web.securenetsystems.net/cirrusencore/WMKVFM.


Are You Making This Huge Evaluation Error?

Real Estate Investors Association of Greater Cincinnati

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Several times in the past few months, I’ve found myself explaining to students that the reason they couldn’t sell their wholesale deal was that they’d overpriced it, and the reason they’d overpriced was that they’d made a common logical error in figuring out the value.

See if you can tell what it is:

The subject property has an after-repaired value of $100,000, and the house has an outdated kitchen, bath, furnace, and flooring.

However, the house also has a section 8 tenant living there who’s been there for 5 years and doesn’t want to move. The house is rented for $1,000/month, and the annual section 8 inspection just came back requiring that the basement walls be painted and that one room of carpet be replaced--$1,500 in work, total.

You are offering this property to landlords for $68,500 because $100,000 x .7 - $1,500 in repairs = $68,500.

Why is it not selling?

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